First off, let me say that this install
is not very hard but it can be time consuming and dirty work. You will be
covered with brake fluid by the time it is done.
Preparation:
You
will first need to get all of your parts together. Here is what you will need
and the parts I used:
1 pair of Hux Brackets $150 2 Front KVR Slotted
93-97 Supra TT Rotors $130 each 1 set if Technafit SS Brake Lines $170 2
Wilwood Billet Dynalite Calipers Part #120-5006 1 Set of Hawk HPS Pads for
the Dynalite Calipers $100 each 2 Bottles of Motul 600 RBF $12
each Various bolts specified by Eric Hux for the brackets (8 total)>br>
Loc-tite Thread Locker Nuts to correctly space the bolt (4
total/optional) Loc-tite Thread-Sealant (optional) 1 Sheet of Aluminum
1/16” thick (optional)
Notes: The Technafit lines are well made but over
priced. If you are confident with your crimping abilities you can make your own
for much cheaper. Also, you won’t be able to find the exact length bolt you will
need to mount the brackets so you will either have to cut the bolts to length or
use some nuts to space the bolts. You also might want to make a pad spacer using
1/16” AL because there will be about 1/16” of space between the pads and the
rotors. Finally, I initially had some problems with leaking from the two upper
caliper bleed fittings and the brake line caliper fitting. After talking to some
Flyin’ Miata Big Brake owners it seems that the bleed valve leaks are normal and
will go away in a few days but the caliper line fitting leak was not. So I used
some thread-sealant on those two fittings and wallah! No more
leaks.
2 Installation: Be sure not to get any brake fluid on your
paint because it strips paint.
1. Jack the front of the car up, support
it with jack stands and remove the wheels. Duh.
2. Put a bucket
underneath the brakes. Hook up your bleed tube. Open the bleed valve and let as
much of the fluid come out of the caliper as possible. Then close the
valve.
3. Now, remove the brake line starting with the fitting on the
body then the fitting on the caliper.
4. Remove the caliper.
5.
Now that you have the caliper off you might be wondering how you are supposed to
get the rotor off because it is not being held on by anything. Well, guess what,
it is pressed on. You will have to get two bolts that screw into the rotor hat
and press the rotor off or buy one of Toyota’s SSTs. A big rubber mallet works
well too.
6. Now you will have to make a decision. Do you want to cut the
dust shield off, do you want to just bend it back, or do you want to remove it?
Hmmm? Betcha 20 bucks that you will end up just bending it back. Get a pair
of channel locks and bend the dust shield back until the Supra TT rotor fits on
without scrapping the shield. You can tell your friends you left it on because
it helps isolate the suspension from the heat of the brakes.
7. Install
the new Supra TT rotor. Make sure you install each rotor on the correct
side.
8. Install the Hux Racing brackets. This is where you might have to
do some test fitting and cut the bolts down. Make sure to use Loc-tite thread
locker on the bolts. Also, if the bracket rubs the rotor, you have it on wrong,
flip it around. They are made to fit only one way.
9. Install the Wilwood
calipers. Again, you might have to do some bolt trimming. Also use Loc-tite
here.
10. Install the brake lines starting at the body fitting. Make sure
you Reinstall the retaining clips. You really need to have these because without
them the lines will rub the tire. That’s no good. I have always found them to be
a real pain but just be patient with them and get them installed. Make sure
there are no kinks in the brake line. Be careful not to over tighten the brass
fittings.
11. Again, decision time. You can install the pads with or
without the AL spacer plates. Install the pads and cotter pin. Bend the ends of
the cotter pin.
There you go. Real simple, just repeat on the other
side and move onto bleeding.
Bleeding: To properly bleed the brakes
you will need to start at the passenger side rear brake, go to the driver’s side
rear brake, then to the passenger side front brake, and finally the driver’s
side brake.
1. You will need to have a friend get in the car and pump the
brake pedal until it becomes hard. Have that person keep pressure on the pedal
and tell them not to remove their foot from the pedal.
2. With your bleed
kit hooked up to the bleed valve, open the valve. Fluid will stream out. After
it stops coming out, close the valve. Have your friend release pressure on the
pedal. Repeat this process (build pedal pressure, open valve, fluid out, close
valve, release pedal) until all of the old fluid is out and there are no visible
bubbles in the fluid.
For the Wilwood Dynalites you only need to bleed
the two upper fittings. Start at the outboard fitting and move to the inboard
fitting.
Make sure that the master cylinder does not run out of fluid
during the bleeding process. The Dynalites pull a lot of fluid. Periodically
check the MC to make sure it is not getting too low.
Final
Inspection:
1. Now with the wheels off is the time to check for any
leaks. If you find leaks, carefully tighten the fitting down until the leak
stops.
2. When you are sure there are no more leaks, clean the rotor face
and calipers with some brake cleaner or alcohol.
3. Put your wheels back
on and make sure the calipers do not rub the wheel. If they rub you will have
to get a wheel spacer or sell your cool new brakes. Of course, you all know you
have to have 17” wheels with this upgrade, right?
4. Now comes the
break-in process. First, drive the car slowly to make sure nothing is going to
come flying off. After you are sure everything is working properly you will need
to burnish the pads.
5. To burnish the pads you need to do 8 medium stops
from about 40 mph and then 8 hard stops from 60mph.
Observations and
Opinions:
Before I tell you my opinions I will need to let all of you
know what suspension and brake mods I had performed on my car prior to the
Supra/Wilwood upgrade as they do affect brake performance.
17x7” wheels
with 215/40 NT501s front and 235/40 NT450s rear. H&R Springs with Tokico
Illumina Struts TRD Sway bars TRD Strut Tower bars front and
rear Powerstop crossdrilled rotors front and rear SMC SS brake
lines Axxis Metal Master pads front and rear ATE Super Blue brake
fluid
It is also important to note that I have removed about 60lbs from
the front of my car and I have no ABS.
Upon first using the new brakes
immediately after installation I noticed that the pedal was softer and moved
farther then my previous set-up. Having done a previous brake upgrade I new that
this was normal and that it should go away in a few days. However, I did notice
that these affects were less than when I had done the previous brake upgrade.
Meaning, in my last upgrade the pedal was softer and traveled farther
immediately following installation then did the Supra/Wilwood upgrade. Based on
this I assumed that once the pads were burnished and broken in that the new
pedal feel would be vastly improved over my last upgrade.
My first drive
with the new brakes was interesting. It was at 8:30 PM in 25 degree Fahrenheit
weather. Needless to say, this initial run did not prove much other than the
working order of the brakes and to do the low speed burinishing. The brakes felt
more powerful and locked up easily but in the cold weather I couldn’t make any
definite assumptions.
However, the next day was much more informative.
This time I went out to do the high speed portion of the burnishing. I found
myself a nice clear and straight bit of road and proceeded. I going and as soon
as the needle hit 60mph I hit the brakes. The brakes initially locked up so I
eased off of them. “Hmmm, seems like some front bias. I will have to remember
that.” Well, I didn’t remember that as well as I should. I didn’t think about
the brakes getting up to working temp quickly and on the next few stops I found
myself having to ease off of the brakes to prevent a large flat spot in my
tire.
With my previous set-up I could get on the brakes hard and early
without too much worry of lock-up. These on the other hand required a large
amount of finesse.
After about four stops I became more adjusted to the
quick response of the Wilwoods and lock-up went away. So I continued to do four
more 0-60-0 runs. This time I decided to do them all on a downhill bit of
road to see how really powerful the Wilwoods were. Again, I was amazed. I could
tell no difference between their performance on level ground and on this
downhill slope. Also to be noted was the fact that I did these runs as back to
back as I could manage only allowing time to turn around. By the eighth run the
Hawk pads were just starting to get warmed up and work well. They were VERY far
from being hot or overheating. The weather was cold but this is still impressive
for a street pad.
Also, the pedal firmed up just as thought it would. The
pedal requires less travel and less effort to create greater braking force then
my previous set-up.
As time goes on I am becoming more used to the new
brakes and lock-up has been resolved through finesse. There is no doubt that the
brakes are now biased more to the front then stock. In the wet these brakes
could be treacherous especially in a emergency stop situation. I do have 60lbs
less weight up front but I don’t think it would matter a great deal in the wet.
On the upside, pedal feel is improved far more than my previous set-up, there is
little chance of brake fad with this set-up, and braking power is vastly
improved. I have continued to test the new brakes and I have continued to be
amazed at their power. However, this power may also be their
weakness.
So, who should do an upgrade of this nature? Well, unless you
are a road racer and plan to upgrade the rear brakes as well, then no one. There
is no real reason to do such an upgrade. You will most likely do better with 93T
brakes. The 93T brakes are more than adequate for the street. What about
autocrossers you ask? Well, definitely no. These brakes will not get up to
working temp quickly enough to be of use and the sheer size and weight of them
is a problem. In low speed corners I can feel the centripetal force of the
larger rotors fighting against me and trying to pull the wheels
straight.
Why did I do this upgrade? Simple, I wanted the most powerful
brakes that I could reasonably use. While there is no real reason to do such an
upgrade except for road racing there is also no real reason to have 500bhp in
MR2 but everyone still wants it. I also plan to upgrade the rear brakes so the
bias problem will be solved by more than just finesse. They also provide so much
more feel over the stock set-up. It is a vast difference. Fade is gone and the
aesthetics are greatly improved. After installation I have noticed people
staring at my brakes with awe. They know that brakes of this size must mean I
get all the women. Then they look at the tiny back brakes and
laugh.
Whether or not these brakes are for you I can’t answer. I have
tried to be as honest as possible. I unfortunately don’t have any performance
numbers but that will be taken care of soon. I plan to test these brakes against
a 91T with upgraded but stock sized brakes. I think there has been a reduction
in 60-0 distances but without testing I can’t say for sure. Here are the
positives and negatives for this upgrade:
+'s Supra/Wilwood Brake--Power,
Feel, Effort, Fade Resistance, Pad choices, Aethetics
-'s Supra Wilwood
Brake-- Power, Bias, Weight
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